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When is the right time to put season passes into games? - Hot Topic
May 12, 2024
There was a lot of backlash online around Ubisoft's release of Star Wars Outlaws with various price tiers and it's season pass. Today we wanted to discuss the implementation of them within various games and when it the proper time introduce them. Head to Game Sandwich for articles: https://www.gamesandwich.com/ Follow us and let's talk about video games, their stories, and the people that make them! 📱Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@game.sandwich.official ✖️Socials: https://twitter.com/TheGameSandwich 🎮Join our Discord: https://discord.com/invite/6GrQYXYdSf #starwars #starwarsoutlaws #ubisoft #starwarsbattlefront2
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Season passes have now creeped their way into single player games
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And today we wanted to kind of sit down and discuss when and where is the proper time to implement a season pass within a game
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Now, why are we doing this? Well, that's because this... is a hot topic
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What's up guys, this is K-Lo, and normally I'm here to give you the lowdown on all things gaming
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but welcome back to another episode of Game Sandwich Hot Topic. And I'm joined today by a familiar face to the show
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Why don't you say what's up? Hello. So... we... got a little rant today
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We got... As I was typing my notes today for this show
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my temperature went up and up and up and up, and this is coming off the heels
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of some rather weird news around Star Wars Outlaws, this whole different price system
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and the fact a single player game is getting a season pass
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First up, when you heard the news, what were your thoughts on that? I mean, it's not a surprise to me considering it's Ubisoft
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Fair point, fair point. They've had season passes and things for forever
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I mean, they've done a season pass for Assassin's Creed as well
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Yeah, and what they're turning that into where it's like the... I want to say it's the Unity Hub or something like that
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where it's like all the games are playing off the central thing
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They do some shady things there. And I think what this all stems from is the fact
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and we've beaten this subject over the head countless times. Budgets for the games are ballooning
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it's causing this ripple effect, there's Xbox games on PlayStation, there's PlayStation games on PC
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and now we're getting stuff like this. I get that in the context for Star Wars Outlaws
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and just talking about that, what bothers me is looking at the quality
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of what we're getting for this quote-unquote season pass, and I pulled up the exact things we're getting
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So it says right now in this season pass, and I quote, you're getting two DLCs at launch
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You're getting the Jabba's Gambit exclusive mission, which is just one mission
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There's that. And then the Kessel Runner character pack, which is pretty much cosmetics for Kay and Nyx
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That's a season pass? I just don't get it. See, I didn't even know what was on the season pass by any means
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because I'm not that interested in Star Wars Outlaws. I've kind of lost hope in the Star Wars IP. Ironic
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Except for specifically the Jedi games that Respawn made. Those are the only ones I ever have any faith in at this point
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I don't even have faith in the Knights of the Old Republic remake that's supposed to be coming
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Is it alive? Is it dead? We honestly don't know. But, I mean, like I said
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I'm not surprised considering Ubisoft, their history with doing things with season passes
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their history of making you pay for things that you shouldn't have to pay for
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Oh, and them putting an ad in the middle of an Assassin's Creed game that they said was not supposed to happen
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I forgot about that. Oh my gosh. And I'm an avid Assassin's Creed fan
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Like, I defend that game. I've defended Valhalla. I thought it was pretty damn good
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But then I'm like, okay. There's things like that, that just... You know what they did
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Ubisoft knows they did that on purpose to think like, hey, they're not gonna care, they're not gonna notice
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but we definitely noticed. We definitely noticed. It reminds me of that thing in, what was it
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Ready Player One, in the movie, where the bad guy, Nolan Sorrento, is like
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we have test groups that say that we can cover up 70% of someone's vision with ads
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before they have seizures or some shit. Ubisoft reminds me of him
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That's what it's come to, honestly. And there are some games that get away with this kind of
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like Forza kind of hides ads or whatever through banners in the game
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which, in the environment, it makes sense. But real quick, if you pay $130 for the top tier of the game
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you're just getting more cosmetics and everything I mentioned earlier. $130 for cosmetics and a mission
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It's baffling. And at this point, if you're paying $130 for a season pass
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I would rather that be pay-to-win stuff because it's in a single-player game
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You know, it'll help me get through the game faster, or if I want to play on the highest difficulty
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maybe those weapons or power-ups or whatever could possibly help me. But at that point, just make it pay-to-win
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Just single-player games I want to add. I know multiplayer gets a little slippery down there
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Like you said, if they're going to do something, like season pass related
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and make you pay $130 in order to get a mission and a bunch of cosmetic items
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you may as well put them into the game and have some sort of currency or something
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I don't even think that that would be a good thing to begin with. I think that that would end up alienating a lot of people
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And they would just, like, at that point, just probably boycott the company
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As if people aren't already doing it with Ubisoft. They're already halfway there
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I mean, EA got a boycott for Battlefront. Yeah, the loot boxes
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And now, I mean, if we could see Ubisoft get the same treatment over a Star Wars project
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that would be great. But like you said, in a weird way
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doing a currency in this, just this game makes sense. Let's just say, hey, they don't do the season pass
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They want to do all this cosmetic stuff and the job omission. Whatever
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You're an outlaw. You're doing bounties. And I would assume credits, galactic credits, are your means of money within the game
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Why not just commit fully to the credits bit there? And be like, hey, you can get this extra mission for more credits
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You can earn them in the game. Or, hey, you want to get 10,000 credits
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Give us 20 bucks and there you go. Yeah, I mean, there's plenty of single player games that already have that in place
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I mean, okay, so like Disney Dreamlight Valley really isn't a single player game at this point
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But it still stands as mostly single player. And they have a currency that you can use in order to buy cosmetic items
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I mean, Dragon's Dogma just released. They have a currency that you can purchase
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And you can use that in order to get better pawns. Like, by all means, they could do that
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I still don't like the idea because I just hate the idea of microtransactions
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But it would at least give people the option to buy it if they want
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And then if they don't, they can still earn it in the game by a lot of extra work
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And that's the thing with single player games specifically. You know, it's going to sound so entitled
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And there's no other way of putting this. I believe single player games should just be ready, complete, good to go, play through it whenever it ships
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This shouldn't be a thing where it's like, hey, here's Star Wars Outlaws
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And here's a season pass because three months or so down the line, you're going to get an extra mission or two
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Whatever, like, by definition, single player games, you're just supposed to play it, enjoy it for what it is, and then let's move on
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If you want to be this multiplayer thing, then commit fully to that
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I know that sounds like pretty black and white and just boneheaded
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But at the same breath, too, we've seen single player games ship
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They have done great. And then we move on and we remember them
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Yet they still try to force that issue. Yeah, I mean, people are always going to remember Dragon's Dogma 2 at this point because of it being single player and actually being complete
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People are going to remember that for a long time at this point. Like previous games, like I can't even think of one that wasn't
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That was complete at launch. Really, at this point, besides like remakes like the Resident Evil 4 remake was complete
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People still remember that. They talk about that. People go back and replay it at this point, like Fallout 4
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That one was complete at launch. I mean, yeah, it was buggy as all hell
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But I mean, the rise of the TV show. Now people are going back to it
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People went back to it before the TV show titled like. People like having a single player experience that's complete
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I mean, another thing that Ubisoft is really messing with here is the whole
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Oh, you have to have an Internet connection to download the rest of the game after you buy it
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So like even people who have to get a physical edition are just now screwed if they have no Internet connection
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We brought up this thing in, I want to say it was a hot topic a few weeks back
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And I gave the example when I think it was Hurricane Sandy hit my local area
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Assassin's Creed 3 came out and I was like, Mom, I got to go get Assassin's Creed
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Even though like a world ending event just rolled through our town. Everything's underwater
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I have to get to GameStop. I got to GameStop, got home, didn't have Internet
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But I was able to pop in Assassin's Creed and play it because I didn't need Internet
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And it was a single player game and I can enjoy my life. Can we get back to that, please
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Like that's just what we need for single player. Multiplayer is there for a reason and you brought up a point about Fallout 4
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And I think in the context of if Outlaws had a season pass and they were like
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Hey, you know what? You're not just getting missions and cosmetics. In four months, you're getting a whole other system or planet where you're going to do a lot of missions
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Like this is a whole other branch to the story. That works like Nuka World for Fallout 4
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Great DLC. They have Far Harbor. Again, Fallout 3 is a whole slew of other DLCs that are just great stories
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And I would argue games in a game. And it works there
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If I got a season pass for that, sign me up. I'm there because that is worth the money
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Here in the instance of missions, cosmetics. What am I really paying for here
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I'm not really going to look at my character as much as I'm going to play the game
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Cosmetics don't take a lot to make. Let's just be honest. They don't take a lot to make
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Yes, you have to have a character artist. You have to design it
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But when it comes down to it, it is not that difficult to make versus an entire level
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Or an entire mission. Or an entire planet. Or whatever. Compared to that stuff, it is not that difficult to make
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So really, if you're going to go above and beyond and do $130 for this game
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Which is $60 above what you're paying for the base edition of it
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Then there should be a damn good reason why you're paying the price of a full nether game
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On top of the game you already purchased. Because basically at that point you're paying for two $70 games almost
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If you include tax. And really, if they're not going to do some full additional story DLC
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It's not worthwhile in the slightest. If all you're getting is cosmetics
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That should be a $10 increase. Because back in the day. I don't even know why I'm saying back in the day
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Literally two years ago. Three years ago. You could have bought a game and gotten extra cosmetics for it for an extra $5 tacked on
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I used to work at GameStop six years ago. And when I worked there
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People complained about $10 extra for cosmetic items. I mean, imagine the number of people who are going to end up harassing store employees at this point
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Over a $60 increase for cosmetic items. And a single mission that's probably going to be beaten within ten minutes
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I also forget to mention you get a digital art book. If that adds anything
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If that tickles your fancy. I don't know. Art books don't matter
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They don't. A digital art book is nothing more than sketches that people put in for the game
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That should really, if you want that. That should be like a $5 purchase
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Maybe $10. I mean, that shouldn't even be included really in a season pass for me
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Or anything. Those used to be pre-order bonuses. And now you're paying for them
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And really, I don't remember the last time I got a digital art book that I actually looked at
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You're paying for JPEGs. It's just right there. Google the game and you'll get
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There's your digital art book right there on Google. Follow the artists who made the art
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And they typically will post their pre-rendered images. You can look at that stuff by following an artist account
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Now, in a sense where I think season passes work. Live service games
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I know they're all over the place. And some games tend to do this the right way
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And then there's some that do it the wrong way. But for the sake of being current and using buzzwords. Fortnite
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Fortnite does the season pass I think the best possible way. You get cosmetics through it all
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There's no pay to win stuff there. And there's a free version
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So if you want to play the season pass. You get other rewards through it all
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And you get art and all that. Is that actually a season pass
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Or does that classify as a battle pass? Because that's two different things here
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Now I want to add. There we go. Let's dive down this rabbit hole
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I need to know your two different factors. Battle pass is typically something that gets you little rewards throughout a season in a game
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Season pass typically is something that gets you extra DLC. As like over the course of a game's lifespan
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Oh, okay. So like Fortnite, yeah, that has a battle pass every single season
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You pay for it. You go, oh, hey, I'd pay like, I don't even know because I don't play Fortnite
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Maybe $10 or something for the battle pass. And then, oh, you can unlock all this stuff by putting in the work to get it
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But a season pass is typically like Far Cry 6, for instance
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It had a season pass. Typically it gets you extra DLC. And for the instance of Far Cry 6, it got three different DLCs
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Each one was a story DLC. And each one that you play is one of the past villains in old Far Cry games
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Each one was reviewed like terribly, if I remember right. Because they were like short, like five minute missions or something that you could easily beat
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But it was still extra content, though. And you paid for it up front
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Didn't have to unlock anything by doing anything. So, yeah, that's where I kind of draw the line there
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It's like battle pass is just for a season of a game for live service
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Actual season pass is getting a bunch of DLC for a game
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See, I lumped it all together. This is why we do shows like this
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Because we learn something from them. Now, I guess I should have asked this at the start
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Have you ever bought any type of season pass for a single game before anything like that
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Oh, loads of them. Ones that actually matter. I typically don't buy the season pass until at least one DLC releases
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So I can see what kind of content they're going to be releasing
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So, for instance, Far Cry 6. I mentioned that one. I never bought the season pass for it because I didn't want to play any of the DLCs
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As soon as I saw that the first DLC was only about five, ten minutes long
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I went, that's not worth it to pay the extra thirty or forty dollars that it was
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And then the second DLC came out and once again it was like, oh I beat it in ten minutes kind of deal
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But, for instance, Fallout 4 I think had a season pass at one point
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It might have. And I believe that I ended up buying that one
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If not, I bought all the DLCs individually. Because they were actual full-length story DLCs that offered something big to the game
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And, I mean, I can't think of any others off the top of my head really
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Besides maybe Super Smash Bros. Super Smash Bros. had a season pass that unlocked a ton of different characters
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And then they had a second season pass and a third one that unlocked an additional six characters each I think it was
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So you got a good chunk of content for the game. But each season pass was like ten dollars I think or maybe fifteen
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Yeah, so Fallout 4 does have a season pass. It's on sale right now if you were interested to get it
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I think what this all kind of boils down to. You can be a single player game and you can kind of have the season pass
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I think it depends on the quality of what's in it. This thing for Star Wars Outlaws
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If they said, hey, you're gonna get like four different totally separate quest lines that are gonna be long
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You're gonna play through them, whatever. We're fine. We'll acknowledge it and move on
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Hey, Ubisoft messes up sometimes and it's whatever. But again, they're not offering too much
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I always look at a game I think aside from Fallout 3 and Fallout 4
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That have done great things with a season pass and with DLC
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GTA 4 and I'm not talking about GTA 5. Because that game just refuses to die
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GTA 4 with The Lost and the Damned. The Ballad of Gay Tony
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Two separate full-fledged DLC stories. And again, The Ballad of Gay Tony gave you a whole separate multiplayer to hop into
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It was just quality stuff. I remember sinking countless hours into the multiplayer there
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And I was like, alright, I'm fine paying this because this is what it's worth
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I remember specifically, actually, I bought the Dark Souls DLC. Like when they did it for Dark Souls 3
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And that was my second ever Dark Souls game. And yeah, season pass, totally worth it
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They released two different DLCs that were absolutely massive areas. That took a long time to beat
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Like you weren't going to end up running through them in two hours
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But I also just looked up, just to be sure. And yeah, the season pass for Star Wars Outlaws specifically just says..
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It says, keep exploring the world of Star Wars Outlaws with all new stories, quests, and areas to discover
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And it only mentions the two. So it does seem like there will actually be new stories and areas
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Whether or not those will actually be big, who knows. But they, so far, have not done a good job at actually saying anything about what the DLC is going to offer
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Or to influence anybody to want it in the slightest. Because the only things they mention are one character pack, like you said
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Like for cosmetics. And then the other one is just a mission
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And I mean, I imagine a mission is going to end up being one quest that gets completed within 10 to maybe 15 minutes
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Depending on where you're at in the game. So, if that's what their idea of a season pass is, just add some quests that take you like 10 minutes to beat
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That's not worth it. It's also funny because whenever that whole thing came out that they're putting the Jabba mission behind a paywall
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They specifically said, that is one mission apart of all the other ones you can play with Jabba and the Hutt Clan
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So it's like, what's so special about that one mission that you have to put it behind that paywall
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And it's like, what are we doing here? What are we paying for then
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If we can play all the other Jabba missions, is there anything that's going to be game breaking or defining from that mission
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That I'm going to be like, whoa, I'm glad I paid the extra 30, 40 bucks here
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Probably not. I mean, if I had to guess, then they're probably going to add like one new area, maybe two
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And then they're also going to add a handful of missions in each area
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That's my assumption, maybe five to 10 in each area. And that still isn't worth the price of a whole new game
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No, because like you're talking 60, 70ish dollars in order to get the season pass
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I mean, I get that, you know, with the Ultimate Edition, you're also getting a few other things like the art book and like a couple of the bundles and stuff
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But I mean, really, that's absolutely ridiculous. You shouldn't be paying that much to get the season pass and a bunch of like, and some cosmetic items
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I mean, really, the Gold Edition, from what I'm seeing here, $110
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So that's $40 extra. That one gets you the season pass, too. It doesn't give you the extra cosmetic stuff
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So really, minimum here, $40 is what you're talking to get the season pass
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And even then, it's not really worth it when season passes used to be like 20, 25, maybe 30
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My bet for this all, what you're going to get from this mission, you're going to get maybe like a coat or something
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Because that's big nowadays in Star Wars, the Jedi Survivor games have the ponchos
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Like as a reward from Jabba, from completing this mission, you're going to get an outfit, a coat or whatever
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And then a blaster, but the blaster is not going to be one you use forever
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It's going to be one that's good for like two minutes, depending on your level
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And then it's like, oh, I'm just going to throw that in the chest on the ship and just keep it moving
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That's my bet. If you play Star Wars Outlaw, you see this video, and you did the mission, come back here, leave a like
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Because maybe I was right. Who knows? Oh, I guarantee it. I mean, really, the best, and we could do like an entire other, we could do a whole debate about this, probably
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But really, to me, like one of the best formats in terms of like a single player game is to have a weapon that lasts through the entire game
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You just change cosmetics on that weapon, like Star Wars Survivor and Fallen Order
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Both of those amazing games. And, oh, hey, you just have a lightsaber the whole time. You customize it. That's it
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I mean, you get abilities that help you get better with said lightsaber
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And then like in Survivor, you still have your lightsaber, but you have different fighting styles with it
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I mean, really, what's stopping them from just doing the same blaster
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Oh, hey, you have this one lucky blaster, but you do upgrades for it that let you do special maneuvers with said blaster or can make the blaster better
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Because that would be the right thing to do. And we all know when companies are in charge of these things, they're like, we see that, you know, that meme of the car drifting onto the wrong exit
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That's what's happening here. That's exactly what's happening here. No, yeah, I mean, it really is. I mean, I could easily see them doing that, though, like going, oh, hey, here's this blaster
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You can do like three upgrades on it. And as you complete missions, you'll get like the different parts of the blaster to change parts to upgrade it, make it better
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And then you can switch the skin on it whenever you want in order to make it however you feel like you want your blaster to be
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And maybe change the ammo type. Yeah, like instead of it just being like, honestly, for the life of me, I can't think of what Star Wars uses in terms of blasters
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But I mean, you can make EMP rounds for it or something. Yeah, there you go
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Make it so that those rounds end up like shocking somebody whenever you hit or like have a burn effect or whatever
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I think with Star Wars 2, they could get away with that because like in the world, Han Solo's blaster is iconic the way it looks
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Chewie's crossbow, I keep, bowcaster. There we go. I'm a Star Wars fan, I promise
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Again, iconic weapon build. You know, you look at Boba and Jango's blasters, the pistols. Those are iconic looking
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The lightsabers, iconic. Characters are known for sticking with a singular weapon and just being damn good at using it
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So right there, you have it. You have it. It just, oh, now this is when it's getting hot
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Yeah, I mean, like I saw a post once upon a time. I think it was like two days ago or something that I saw it
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Where someone posted on YouTube, give credit to whoever credit is due for because I have no idea who made it
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I just saw the title, but it was like Ubisoft is doing everything they can to ruin Star Wars Outlaws
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And I saw that and went, yeah, that is a clickbait title, but also there is some truth to that
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I mean, you have people complaining about every aspect of the game
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I've looked at the Reddit thread and people are like, I hate that the character looks like she's from the 80s
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Personally, I like that, though, because Star Wars started in the 80s. Hey, I mean, it works
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But then you also have people complaining about the season pass, people complaining about the cosmetics, people complaining about that one job on mission getting locked behind a paywall
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And it's just this whole game is just like a recipe for disaster at this point
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And I mean, really, you couldn't have picked a worse company to make the game
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I mean, honestly, I'm wondering how many like how many towers are going to be in it
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Oh, no, no, I don't need to climb nothing. I don't need any of that
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I don't need like a little tree where you got to assassinate people. It's going to cross over
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I know it's going to. And that's the worst part. That's the worst part about it, because I'll be honest up front
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When I first saw that gameplay, they revealed I want to say Summer Games Fest
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I could be wrong when they revealed it. I was like, oh, I'm in this game. Looks awesome
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I have no second thoughts about it. It's going to be a fun Star Wars game
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Then this story hit and then I'm like, oh, it's what it's that thing
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It's that thing. This is what it's going to be. Here we go
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Yeah, I mean, really, Ubisoft, they're known for. Basically doing the same thing over and over and over again
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I mean, they started with Assassin's Creed, but the whole tower thing and like Far Cry has those towers and every other game that they have has those towers
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So guaranteed, if this is an open world game. Well, actually, it is an open world game
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I don't even know why I said if because they're touting it as the first open world Star Wars game
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And so, yeah, it's going to have those Ubisoft towers where you're going to climb something in order to like scan the area with a droid or a drone of some sort
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And you're going to go, oh, hey, wow, I know this area. Cool
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Let me go check the next part of the planet. Now, let me go on to the next part
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And you might have some stealth where you hide in an obvious bush in order to like make it so that people can't see you, even though that probably wouldn't actually work
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It's like the Metal Gear he hides in a box. It's like we know you're there
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Yeah, it's right there. Yeah, I it's so bad because I was looking forward to this game
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I am going to play it whether I get it up front or not
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That, I think, is now the the thing that's coming in most people's minds
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Am I just going to get this up front? Probably not. I'm going to wait because Ubisoft games, as many people know, go on sale at astronomical rates somewhere down the line
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So prime candidate for your sale right there. Star Wars outlaws. Yeah, I mean, like, I'm just going I'm just going to go ahead and just predict what I think everyone's going to say about the game at launch
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Like at launch, I bet you there's going to be like a bunch of different companies giving the game like a five or six
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And then IGN is obviously going to give it a nine because IGN gets bought out and I don't care
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Shots fired, whatever. And then you're going to have some sane people like the reviewer that I used to work with who actually poke holes in the game and talk about its many
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Like it's probably obvious flaws and how it probably links back to other Ubisoft projects and everything
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But like, really, I have a feeling most people probably a five or six, maybe a seven if you're getting lucky for most reviews
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That's totally plausible. I'm right there with you. I think that is the route for this game
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But I think if you have any other points, we can get to that
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Um, no, I don't think I do, except I better not see Jack Black and Lizzo in it
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Hey, you know what? There's a little Easter egg. Stick around for the next hot topic. We'll get to that. We'll get to that stuff later
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But this is my favorite part of the episode where we pass it off to you guys, the audience
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Let us know your thoughts about season passes within games like this. If you bought any, did you like them? Did you hate them
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Or do you just think they should be Thanos snapped from the universe
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But I want to say at this point, Star Wars Outlaws, just, we're going to experience it. That's all I'm going to say on the matter
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